Articles, columns and quotes in defense of the Star Wars Expanded
Eddie Van Der Heidjen's amazingly exhaustive page!
Robert Mullin's wildly unique
chronology project attempts to fuse the EU canon with Disney's!
Nathan P. Butler's famously detailed chronology!
Long forgotten, un-reprinted Star
Wars adventures and nonfiction literature
JJM's great timeline and list of
TBone's famous Star Wars site
include cut-scenes, scripts, and so much more!
Plif lives with Marvel Star Wars
stats and loads of fun pages!
Dino Jim's comprehensive timelines
Fascinating study of the changes
made to the original trilogy
This site's original
pre-Filoni Clone Wars Timeline
Another chronology of the Clone
Wars incorporates older stories in relation to the animated series
Everything you always wanted to
know about the Star Wars Holiday Special!
Starwarstimeline.net is on:
Archived News and Website Updates for 2010 to 2013
(The former has titles, the latter does not)
Just wanted to note that from this point
forward all updated will be listed under Latest News. In a few
weeks, I'll discontinue this page and save the contents found here under
the individual year for past years' "latest news."
No major updates, but I did add the upcoming Ewoks: Shadows of Endor to
the timeline at 3 BBY. The
continuity notes here detail how the various Ewoks stories were rearranged
to accommodate the author's admirable efforts to bridge the cartoon series and
the TV movies.
Speaking of maintaining continuity, from this point forward The Star Wars
Expanded Universe Timelinewill no longer accommodate stories from
authors who purposely ignore continuity, even if the licensee and LFL
approve it. This leads us specifically to discuss the current ongoing Star
Wars series, written by Brian Wood, who has publicly and on numerous
occasions stated that he is ignoring all continuity (which is obvious in the
story). This series is essentially a "soft" reboot, an Infinities story being
promoted as an authentic extension of the saga. It is not. Unless efforts are
made to reconcile the various contradictions that this story contains, it will
remain in the Infinities section of the timeline. I would also suggest that fans
who are concerned with preserving a reasonable sense of continuity vote with
your dollars and don't support stories that openly violate continuity.
Just wanted to give a shout out to Michael
Rhodes and Brian Custer for pointing out a few things that needed
immediate attention (e.g., broken links and the Dawn of the Jedi series).
1/28/13 J.J. Abrams Director of Episode VII
After the news leaked a week ago, LFL/Disney confirmed that Super 8/Star Trek
director J.J. Abrams, a longtime Star Wars fan, will be helming episode 7 based
on a script by Toy Story 3 screenwriter Michael Arndt. While the 2015
released date may be up in the air at the moment, what many expanded universe
fans are still wondering is if the story will jettison the decades of books and
comics that have come to fill in the gaps before, during and after the six
films. Chances are that unless an announcement is made stating otherwise, fans
won't know for certain until days before the film is released (when professional
reviews start coming out).
If Disney and LFL choose to go down a dark path, that doesn't mean that the
expanded universe dies, but it does create a split, with one universe containing
episodes 7-9 and the other with the current EU and no films past episode 6. It
also will create a lot of ill-will amongst long-time fans. Hopefully, such an
unpleasant and messy scenario won't come to pass, and the powers-that-be will
recognize and respect the contributions, legacy and importance of Star Wars, not
just as a film series, but as an amazing long-running literary series.
Hey all, just wanted to add the Celebration
IV audio-drama to the Infinities section, although don't let that
designation prevent you from listening to it. It's quite fun. The script,
however, doesn't take into account the events in the Era of Rebellion,
e.g., the Goodwin/Williamson newspaper strips.
Next update should add the recently
discovered Spanish Droids and Ewoks comics, and a translation!
Good to be back, if only for the moment. I
wanted to add a location for the new Star Wars (2013) series. Because Han
is still wanted by Jabba, but Vader doesn't know Luke's name, that places
this (internally dated at 2 months ABY) before Marvel #28, where Han
rescues Jabba (thereby temporarily canceling his debt until issue #37. I
also added the recent and upcoming Clone Wars episodes, and spaced
out a few older episodes. Obviously, there's still a lot to do in this
time-period, but for now this will keep.
I have an end-date in site for
my book, which is the
summer, after which I'll be free to return to this site, which is badly in
need of updates! Look forward to getting back to work on it!
11/12/12 New Star Wars Trilogy/Disney Buys LFL for 4 Billion
Coming out of hurricane Sandy (after 13 days without power) was this bombshell
that most of you have by now been speculating about (either with joy, anger,
skepticism or cautious optimism.) Few would complain about getting three more
Star Wars films, particularly with the return of Hamill, Fisher and Ford to
their much-beloved roles, and with such a luminary as Michael Arndt (Toy
Story 3) writing an original screenplay based on Lucas' early notes. But
there are not a few fans of the expanded universe concerned that the new trilogy
with erase 20 years of continuity in the books and comics (as well as ancillary
concerns about Dark Horse Comics losing the license). As with most early
announcements, there's still too much left unsaid to comment one way or the
other. In his interview with Kathleen Kennedy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyqlTi7lkhY),
Lucas mentions the thousands of stories included in the books and comics, which
may indicate that Disney, while creating a new series, will not throw out what's
come before. And given the ages of the actors reprising their roles, a trilogy
set after the recent Fate of the Jedi series would appear to work
time-wise. But all this remains idle speculation. We will be watching this
development with great interest.
Sorry, no major updates. Just wanted to add a
few Star Wars PSAs from back in the day before I forgot them. The three
are in the N/A section at the end of the History
section of the timeline.
2/26/12 An Actual Update
It has been an interminable long time since I've done an update, but thanks to
the encouragement from you guys and a free day, I've decided to add some
entries. Apologies to those who've been checking in regularly, and thanks to
Chris Matz for the recent list of updates. I do intend to be done with my
book by year's end, so that
will free me up to get back to these sites with regular updates. In the
meantime, Darth Plagueis is up! I appreciate
all your continued patience!
9/30/11 The Dissolution of Starwars.com
For years, EU fans became subscribing members to a content-heavy portion
of the official site called Hyperspace, which featured in-depth articles, comics, webstrips, short stories, etc.
Even the non-paying portion of the site had years of articles and features,
including an extensive databank of characters from the films, books and comics. Those who didn't
get a chance to copy and print the material
have now been left in the lurch, as the new site has jettisoned all of it for a
site with big pictures and few words that can accommodate even the most
illiterate of second-graders.
Minor update: Rearranged the order for the
start of the Clone Wars animated series.
Added the short stories from the last two
issues of the Insider (which is back to publishing short fiction,
thank the Maker), Christie Golden's "First Blood," a tale of Vestara Kai
(from the Fate of the Jedi series) set in 41 ABY, and Tim Zahn's "Buyer's
Market," a story that deals with the early stages of his plans for Nkklon
(in Heir to the Empire) set early in 5 ABY (or late 4 ABY). As
Lando's a former general, it has to be after Luke Skywalker and the
Shadows of Mindor, but not too far afterwards as the New Republic is
still waging mop-up battles with the former Empire, and the Lady Luck is
Update 9/13/11: As of a month prior to release, the Lucas corporation finally
released detailed specs. Head over
to the official site to see them. This
specs review that I'd written in May was based on the purported "reveal all,"
which was designed to hype fan interest and obfuscate certain facts that Star
Wars purists, blu-ray purists and others might not like. This revised "review"
is a more balanced look at this set. Once it's out in a few days, I'll post an
1. I wasn't expecting the original version of the classic trilogy. That it
wouldn't be included was made clear in an obscure interview, which most fans
didn't read. Thus, I understand fans'
ire that it's not being made available in anamorphic widescreen, I've always
thought the Special Edition versions had more
going for them than not. So I can't in good conscience say that I'm missing
the originals. But I am disappointed for those fans who are, and that this isn't the
Ultimate Edition box set that so many were hoping for, and expecting, which,
like the Blade Runner (or Aliens) set, contains different versions
of the film via branching technology. That would've been, IMO, the right
way to go.
2. This set is based on the inferior
2004 transfer. THAT is disappointing. It means the films will look great, but not be presented
in the best high-definition quality that's currently available and in use by
practically every film that's been released on blu-ray for the last few years.
It will still have crushed blacks and other issues present in the old 1080
transfer. What does it mean to most people? Probably not much. It will look
better than the DVD versions. But not like it should. It could and should've
looked spectacular. But, taking advantage of the fact that only the videophiles
know what it means to do a proper 4k transfer, it wasn't done this time 'round.
3. Based on the wording of the press release, the deleted scenes, alternate
scenes, and extended scenes are NOT incorporated into the films, but available
only on separate discs. This is a bone of contention, as the films
could've been reworked into extended editions (ala the hugely popular The
Lord of the Rings EEs). For fans who had been looking forward to the
"ultimate editions" even before 2004, this is disappointing. While getting to
finally see these scenes, is great, most have not been cleaned up (which is
egregious), and many of the deleted scenes from the prequels are merely
4. Lightsabers have been corrected, as well as other color timing issues.
Additionally, Lucas has continued to tweak, not only with special effects (e.g.,
giving Ewoks blinking eyes), but with iconic moments, such as Vader's redemptive
act, where he now utters a howling "Noooo!" as he pitches Palpatine over the
edge. Needless to say, this has caused a huge uproar from fans around the web.
5. The surprisingly worst feature of this set is the documentaries. Of the 100 hours of new documentary footage that
Rick Macallum excitedly talked about in 2007, there's six hours of footage
broken up into numerous categories, interesting, yes, but a far cry from what
had been promised. Of the documentaries, there's 25 minutes
about TESB, 84 minutes about the 501st (the
group that dresses like stormtroopers and other armored characters from the
films). "Spoofs" is 91
minutes of clips from some of the spoofs that have been available online (or
officially released). The other two useless documentaries are
"Anatomy of a Dewback," which is about the special effects
that went into making the '97 Special Editions. Considering that some of those
effects were later redone for the 2004 version (Jabba specifically), this is a
bit pointless. The other documentary is Star Wars Tech, which is the
shorter of the two History Channel specials that aired a few years back. Oddly
enough, the lengthier and far more interesting one (The Legacy Revealed)
On the positive side, there's:
1. The original documentaries from '78, '80 and '83, namely The Making of
Star Wars; The Empire Strikes Back: SPFX, and Classic Creatures: Return
of the Jedi. If you're like me, these hold a special place in your heart.
I'm glad to see them confirmed on here, as they'd been expected. I just didn't
think they'd be the sole documentaries (not counting the new short on
TESB) of the films. Keep your DVDs, however, folks. There's no "The Beginning,"
no "From Star Wars to Jedi," etc. There's far more that's not included than is.
2. DTS 6.1. I've heard great things about the soundtrack, which has been done
from scratch, so no missing cues or reversed channels as with the DVDs.
5/1/11 Mark Your Calenda... ahh, forget it!
Apparently details about the upcoming Star Wars blu-ray sets are being released
on the 4th (get it? May the Fourth be with you), the 34th anniversary of the
first film. As many of you know, I want to be excited about this. I've been
talking about the "ultimate editions" blu-ray set for years now, and while this
isn't being billed as an "ultimate" edition, it has the potential to be quite
promising, what with tons of rediscovered footage from the classic trilogy.
Only problem is that I don't believe Lucas bothered to reincorporate them into
the films themselves. And that just bugs me. If Blade Runner could offer
five versions of that film, I don't see why we couldn't have a proper extended
edition version of these. Now, I could yet be wrong. Perhaps they did, in which
case, you'll see an exuberant and joyful post on the 4th!
Either way, it'll still be nice to see those scenes, but outside of the context
of the film itself, it doesn't have the dynamic and narrative context. Yeah, we
know all these films by heart, so we can easily imagine the latter. But I'm a
firm believer that if you've got good scenes, and an opportunity to create a
different cut of the film, do it. It would require Williams to recut and/or add
new music to the score, but that's a good thing!. More John Williams' Star Wars
music?! Uh, yes!
Not to beat a dead horse, but I'm also concerned that part of the reason they
held off releasing info on these discs is to forestall criticism on the high-def
transfers themselves, which are likely older upgrades (see the 1/6/11 article).
While most people won't know the difference, or be distracted by all the good
stuff on this set, it is a disappointment for those of us who will know the that
the quality of the image is not what it could've/should've been. It's not just
that Star Wars isn't the cutting-edge, state-of-the-art series it once was, or
that even non-genre and mediocre-genre films are getting proper HD transfers,
it's that Star Wars deserves to be given the royal treatment; so, if they didn't
do a new master, it's a shame. But again, I'm happy to be wrong if such is the
You won't need me to post the info, as it'll be everywhere on the 4th, but
you'll get the pertinent stuff and my response to it.
Chris Matz gave me a nudge in the right
direction, so I placed the last few TCW episodes, except the Citadel
trilogy. Far as I know, Piell died after Order 66. Everything else is
hearsay until they figure out how it makes sense. I also added the recent and upcoming
Lost Tribe of the Sith ebooks (to 3900 and 3000). Additionally, I added TFU II, though
that's subject to change as I go through that period again, and Darth
Vader and the Lost Command to the end of the 19 BBY period. Finally, I
added Karen Miller's Clone Wars books (Stealth and Siege) in 21 BBY
right before episode 17 of Season 1.
Finally, I have to thank Luke again for his
tremendous help going through Jedi vs. Sith: The Essential Guide to the
Force, and providing dates and page numbers for me, and creating a far
easier system in which to add the remaining dates from the book to the
timeline! Cheers mate!
Added The Old Republic: Revan to 3956.
Drew Karpyshyn's new novel will pick up where KOTOR (the video game) left
off. Called The Old Republic: Revan, it will span five years, and
continue his tale during the period of KOTOR II. For more info, go
While this is certainly exciting news for fans of KOTOR, what I'd like to
know is when they're going to commit the story of that game to a
novel/comic for non-gamers. It was once thought that the Dark Horse comic
series would catch up to that time-period, but that doesn't seem to be
happening. So far, we have a prequel and a sequel committed to text, but
not the actual story that sparked them. Ah well, I guess us non-gamers
will just have to watch the fan-made movie version on
Youtube (of which a Special Edition is apparently in the works).
4/21/11 A Note of Reassurance
It's been interesting days since our petition took off! We've had extremist
far-right opposition in the form of theforcecast, who've called the EU "crap"
and labeled EU fans "kooks" and "fanatics," who amount to a tiny minority. Yet,
they've felt so threatened by this tiny minority that they amusingly set up an
anti-EU Facebook page! This last bit of hilarity has amounted to all of 43
"likes" from theforcecast's devotees. Compare that with the now 1,000 signatures
on our petition, and we see who the "minority" actually is. But the controversy,
as all controversies are, was good for us, as it increased our visibility and
intent to let all 100,000 EU fans (a number based on Del Rey's recent statement
that of the six Fate of the Jedi books in print, there are over 660,000
copies in print! No small army are we!) know that we have a voice, and that
voice is saying, politely, to keep the past stories relevant and in harmony, as
they've been for 30 years! This is in no way to suggest that Lucas should "curb
his vision" as the detractors claim, but rather to recognize that because these
stories were commissioned and approved by Lucas and his team, and sold to his
supportive fans as the legitimate history of the people, places, things in his
films, they deserve consideration as such. And to the extent that changes are
required, which they sometimes are, Lucas' stalwart team (Sue Rostoni, Leland
Chee, Pablo Hidalgo) will find ways to make it all work in the end. A good
long-running series employs retcons as the backbone of its operation, and Star
Wars has successfully done this for decades. From 1978 to today, retcons have
made accidents, incongruities, contradictions and other mistakes from story to
story work, and, in fact, new stories have sprung from the need to create
retcons (e.g., the Jedi vs. Sith and Darth Bane series to explain
how the "rule of one" came about, which was initially a contradiction between
the ancient Sith from the Tales of the Jedi era to the new Sith of the
To that end, those of us on the Dark Horse message boards got some encouraging
news from Leland Chee (which I hope he doesn't mind my posting here), which is a
bit of reassurance that many of us were hoping to hear from LFL for some time. I
had asked him, jokingly, if he'd signed our petition, to which he responded:
"While I am humbled by your passion, I
strongly believe the Expanded Universe should always strive to adhere to George
Lucas's vision of the Star Wars
universe. When discrepencies arise, we've always made every effort to adjust the
EU to adhere to that vision while at the same time, preserving as much of the
existing EU as possible. We did this when new films came out, we will continue
to do this with The Clone Wars series,
and we will do this with anything else that stems from George's vision of
Star Wars. Given it has been over 30
years since the release of the first sequel, I think we've done a pretty good
job of holding together the EU so far.
me baby? Hold together!
" (You can find the
source of this
It's a reassuring statement because it shows that within the
confines of Lucas' establishment (Leland is an employee after all and
sagaciously prefaced his statement), Lucasfilm will continue doing the job
they've always done, which is making sure that retcons are provided so that
everything works in the end.
The Star Wars community has lost some
long-time members due to the recent spate of contradictions to the EU, and no
doubt there will be more, particularly with Henry Gilroy and Catherine Winder no
longer working for The Clone Wars team (they now have a head-writer and
producer who know nothing of the EU and seem as if they could care less about
it). Leland's note is great news, but that doesn't mean that fans shouldn't
continue to voice their concern, and this petition allows them to do so in a way
that's communicative, not argumentative or demanding. People don't listen when
they're being attacked. And Lucas, as much as many people have been angered at
his decisions and flaws, is still a human being deserving of respect on that
So, keep signing, and hold on to your fandom!
3/29/11 The Rebellion Has Begun!
As you may have noted above, a petition has been started—written by Matt Kay and
yours truly—to preserve the integrity of the Star Wars Expanded Universe.
Thanks to Simon Elvis, I got some dates for
the all the Old Republic titles that are currently (or soon to be)
out there. Nice to see this segment of the timeline filling in nicely with
various books and comics, and, of course, the upcoming game.
3/3/11 Mark Your Calendars... or not: February 10, 2012
Not sure how many of you care about this, but The Phantom Menace will be
re-released in theaters in 3D on 2/10/12... It's apparently to be followed by
the other films in the series. I might check it out. But to be perfectly honest,
Jar Jar in 3D is not exactly something I'll be lining up for. If the film has
significant changes made to it, then my curiosity will be piqued. I think a lot
of us recognize that TPM needs work. Not sure at this late game if it's going to
get a "Special Edition" type treatment, but it undoubtedly needs it. I don't
think it's a terrible film, just a flawed one that was rushed, and particularly
its screenplay, which Lucas never should've tackled on his own (you'll recall
that ANH and TESB were written by others).
Just wanted to add the upcoming miniseries
Old Republic: The Lost Suns to 3600 BBY. I figure it's probably better
for me to try and post new info when it arrives rather than pushing it off
and adding it to the growing pile of items that need updating/posting. It
will all get done at some point. Positive thinking: "I will be Supreme
Chancellor." I also added Blood Ties, at least the flashback
section. I've not read it yet, so I'm not certain where the frame story
No major updates (though the site needs
them). I updated the URL for the short Zahn story, "Judge's
Call." I also finally updated the Legacy comic-book series. No
added images yet, but the text is there. In addition, I added the most
recent Old Republic timeline entry,
Great Hyperspace War to 5,000 BBY.
Thanks to my main-man, Luke, for
straightening out some of my recent updates. Apparently, things have
jumped ahead in time on the Clone Wars. I'm not willing to go too far
ahead just yet. Truth be told, the whole thing is a puzzle to me, as I'm
sure it is to my fellow timeliners. Hopefully, it will all, at some point,
be resolved by Filoni & Chee. So take everything with a grain of salt
until then. I should probably include a short review I wrote of the recent
episode, "Overlords," as it has potential for some very bad
philosophical/theological implications for the universe, but I'll hold off
until I've seen the third episode.
Nothing major. Just added the recent Clone
1/6/11 This Will Be a Day Long Remembered... Or Not.
Well, after years of speculation and rumors, the Star Wars Saga box set set has
officially been announced for September. First off, here's the official press
release. Then we'll discuss:
Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment will release Star Wars in three
distinct sets to meet the needs of every Star Wars fan:
* Star Wars: The Complete Saga on Blu-ray (9-disc Set includes all six films)
* Star Wars: Prequel Blu-ray Trilogy (3-disc set includes Episodes I-III)
* Star Wars: Original Blu-ray Trilogy (3-disc set includes Episodes IV-VI)
STAR WARS: THE COMPLETE SAGA ON BLU-RAY will feature all six live-action
Star Wars feature films utilizing the highest possible picture and audio
presentation, along with three additional discs and more than 30 hours of
extensive special features including never-before-seen deleted and alternate
scenes, an exploration of the exclusive Star Wars archives, and much more.
Star Wars: The Complete Saga on Blu-ray will be available for $139.99 US/$179.99
CAN and the Star Wars: Trilogy Sets for $69.99 US/89.99 CAN. Pricing for each
set will vary by international territory.
Well, this doesn't mention much of anything, such as if the films are going
to incorporate the "lost"/deleted scenes, which, let's face it, is what most of
us who were looking forward to the "ultimate" edition were hoping for. There's
also no mention of the nature of the 30 hours of special features. Two points on
this: 1. we can assume documentaries, but what specifically? Are the older docs
that fans are hoping for going to be included, or just new ones? 2. What
happened to the 100 hours of documentary footage that Rick Macullum talked about
at Reunion 2 in France (see my 10/30/07 archived news)? Apparently, Lucas is
going to hold back an additional 70 hours for future anniversary editions.
That's annoying, and especially if he also decided to hold back from
incorporating the deleted scenes for that reason.
So, as far as announcements are concerned, this is a pretty shabby one. We
already knew, via Sansweet and others back in April, eight months ago, that a
blu-ray set was being prepared for this year, and that it would contain "lost
scenes" and new documentaries. The promo-video for this set is also pretty
lackluster and doesn't do much more than show clips from the six films. I'd have
wanted to see some of the deleted scenes and documentary footage, but no such
luck. All we learned is that this is a three-tier set, and that fans of the
originals who hate the prequels can just get a set of the "original" special
edition versions, and skip the prequels (and, apparently, the bonus 30 hours of
special features). We already know that the original theatrical releases will
not be included, as Lucas has said that it's too cost-prohibitive at this time
to restore them (the '95 "restoration" was actually a revision process that
created the '97 special editions, which were then upgraded again for the 2004
The news has generated some excitement in as far as the films are coming out in
high-def, but there's not even any word as to whether or not they did a
proper high-def transfer (the 2004 transfer was a subpar 1080p transfer.
Most HD transfers are 4k). Frankly, the way this press-release is worded makes
it sound like they didn't do anything but upconvert the old one. (For more info
on this whole process and what it means, see:
http://secrethistoryofstarwars.com/savingstarwars.html under the subheading:
"Further Changes and into the Digital Realm")
Stay tuned, as I'm sure over the next few months they'll divvy out crumbs of
information to keep the faithful in perpetual salivation at the heel of their
Lance Henriksen narrates another
in the great Galactic Timeline series. The new date: 4904 BBY.
11/29/10 RIP Irvin Kershner
So that it doesn't get lost, I've made a
notation on the Reviews
page to the story behind the original version of "The Dreams of Cody Sunn-Childe,"
including a link to Eddie's page which has a comparison of the four pages
that LFL changed.
11/15/10 Quinlan Vos Hits the Small Screen
EU readers (meaning any of you reading this) will be happy to note that Quinlan
Vos survived the Clone Wars animated series relatively unscathed from how he
appears in the comics. His voice might throw some, but overall no damning
changes were made to him, and even his specific force talents were kept for the
character. Actually, the episode where he appears, "Hunt for Ziro" is one of the
best ones that have appeared in the series, and demonstrates that a show could
be excellent, surprising and faithful to the stories that came before. But, of
course, we already knew that. Nitpickers who played the game Bounty Hunter
take note: The Krayt Dragon found Gardulla the Hutt indigestible.
More tweaks to yesterday's Clone Wars
chronology--once again thanks to Luke for the corrections and sharp eye!
I've updated the Clone Wars animated series
chronology--thanks Luke for the heads-up--according to the notes provided
on the official site. It really does underscore the anthology nature of
this show. It also helps to demonstrate that much of this series takes
place within a relatively close period of time, rather than sprawled all
about the three years of the Clone Wars (though, of course, later episodes
and seasons may do that). As of now, however, there remains plenty of time
for the earlier books and comics to fit. There's also been some some
surprisingly faithful EU nods, though by this point, after the Mandalorian
mess, I'm sure there are plenty of EU fans feeling less-than-charitable.
Nevertheless, it's a move in the right direction, if in fact, it's
indicative of a direction rather than just a fluke.
With the recent realization that J.M.
DeMattias' original ending of "The Dreams of Cody Sunn-Childe" (known to
US readers in Marvel's Star Wars #46) was actually published in Marvel UK
#141 back in the day, I'm happy to eliminate the fascist version and
restore DeMattias' intended pacifist one. If you don't know what I'm
talking about, or are thinking, "some guy named Wally Lombego wrote that
story," follow the link first
here, and finally with DeMattaias' response to the discovery
Thankfully, you don't need to own Marvel UK #141, as the original page in
question was reprinted on both sites.
In brief, DeMattias' original version allowed
Cody's pacifist stance to remain an equally valid one alongside Lando's
more violent response. Lucasfilm, however, felt that Cody's opinion
threatened the Star Wars heroes by placing them in a bad light by
contrast, and ordered Marvel to rewrite it. In other words, the
non-violent stance of one fictional character (who's viewpoints echoed men
like Martin Luther King Jr., Gandhi and Nelson Mandela) was deemed
inappropriate for a series where the main characters engaged in violent
revolution on a regular basis!
Thankfully, Marvel UK, apparently running on
a tighter schedule, already had the original ending going to press (their
hardcover reprint in The Empire Strikes Back Annual #2 utilizes the
rewritten version seen in the US version), which allows to see exactly
what DeMattias' (who had changed his name on the issue to Wally Lombego in
protest) vision originally was.
Ok, I finally figured out a way to salvage The Force Unleashed. If
you recall, the latter storyline contradicted (among other things) the
Radio Drama segment, "Points of Origin," by having the existence of the
Death Star revealed to Bail Organa and Mon Mothma in a way that was
completely different, and two years earlier, than how they learned
of it in that story.
Rather than pop TFU in the Infinities bin (where some have argued it
belongs), I found out a way to move the earlier part of the "Points of
Origin" segment (which, if you recall, was also adapted in Dark Horse's
Empire #5: "Princess... Warrior.") What helped was the fact that we
have the Radio Drama's script (in Star Wars: The National Public Radio
Dramatization), which gives us page numbers, allowing a far easier way
to separate the storyline into portions.
Thus, from the portion on Raltiir (where "Points of Origin" begins) to the
moment Leia and Bail learn of the existence of the Death Star now take
place before the 2nd part of The Force Unleashed novel. (That will,
of course, mean ignoring the dated entry at the beginning of Empire
#5, but nowadays, ignoring a book or comic's timeline date is more common
than not.) The Radio Drama's concluding portions (which I've dubbed
"Dinner with Tion," for lack of a better description) takes place where I
originally had the entire segment, in the time immediately leading up to
A New Hope.
It's not ideal, of course, but it's a way to reconcile the disparity
between the two sources without having to sacrifice the integrity of
either (which cutting segments out of it would have done.) The only real
change it means is that it took much longer for Tion to set up a dinner
date with Bail and Leia. We have to assume that he's either unaware of
Bail's treason (another flub of TFU), or just so enamored of Leia that he
10/22/10 In unrelated, but exciting news:
Peter Jackson has just announced that Martin Freeman is set to play Bilbo
Baggins. "There has only ever been one Bilbo Baggins for us," Jackson explained.
"There are a few times… when you come across an actor [who] was born to play a
role, but that was the case as soon as I met Martin. He is
brave - exactly like Bilbo… he is our
I could not agree more! Check out theonering.net for further casting news!
Ooh, another update! Not really, just a minor addition of the latest
Knight Errant tales (including the
Hyperspace one -- apparently they really like JJM over there, since
they've published quite a few of his stories in recent days).
I've also edited (finally) and expanded, and moved my contentious article
("Who is the creator of Star Wars?") to a more
Let me know your thoughts.
I had some spare time, so I added the last two Old Republic
entries (3964-3960 BBY, 3956 BBY and 4000 BBY). Good stuff on that
timeline page, perfectly narrated by Lance Henriksen. The timeline date
listed for the latter entry places the events of Tales of the Jedi
at 4000 BBY (at least as a starting point), rather than the 3998 date I'd
had it at. So, I bumped it up to years back to 4000-3998 date. Since I was
in that era, I also added the new Hyperspace exclusive, The
Secret Journal of Demagol, which takes place before and during the
first nine volumes of KOTOR in 3964. Finally, I added all the "news"
articles that appeared exclusively in certain issues of KOTOR, but were
never reprinted for the trade paperback editions. So, phew! I was busy
tonight! (Thanks to Luke for reminding me about the latter items).
10/4/10 Who is the Creator of Star Wars?
Just two news items ago (see 9/18/10:
Clone Wars Season 3), I said I wasn't going to rant about anything that happened
on the Clone Wars animated series, but simply bide my time until the end of the
Clone Wars series, and then, after seeing LFL/Filoni's timeline, determine what
stays and what goes. But after seeing the last episode featuring a Rodian named
Greedo whom Lucas is insisting, despite no conclusive evidence from the episode,
is THE Greedo from the Cantina (hoping we'll forget that the film-Greedo had
to speak Huttese to Han, or that Greedo's back-story determines that he wasn't
even born), the idea for this article popped into my head. Hopefully, you'll find it's at
least something to think about.
This article has been edited and expanded, and moved to
9/26/10 Star Wars Timeline Network
The ever-reliable Jim Lehane (of Dinojim.com and the Star Wars Expanded Universe
Chronology Checklist Database) has put together a Facebook page that will
present updates from various timelines, including my site, Nathan's, Eddies and
his own). Pretty cool, huh? (Now, I just need to make sure I make updates -- a
task I know James is happy to assist me with). You can check it out
Thanks to eagle-eyed Luke VanHorn, we now know that Star Tours was
intended to take place about six and a half years ABY. I'm also debating
its canonical status. Could 3PO, during a short period when no major
conflicts are occurring, have temporarily assisted with the Star Tours
program? Possibly. Let me know your thoughts.
I posted the two new Clone Wars episodes early on at the 7 month ABG
period, since they detail the first meeting between Grievous and Asajj.
While they technically "met" in Clone Wars Adventures: "Rogues
Gallery," we're going to have to argue that it wasn't a formal
introduction (and since Grievous basically just beat Asajj to a pulp, it's
While I can't personally promise lots of updates in the next few months,
you may, however, be getting updates from my new assistant James Cox, so
you won't be left in the lurch! Check out the new
Legacy page to see what I mean!
I also want to take this moment to send a big thanks to everyone who's been
keeping me abreast of Star Wars news, info and stories, Luke Van Horn, Eddie van
der Heijden, Simon Elvis, Chris Matz, Jacob Cook and others who've sent me
comments and questions. I'm storing them up so that when I get back into
updating full-time, I can reference your emails and see what needs work. Thanks
Also, big thanks is due to a man named James Cox who's been directly helping me
update the look and functionality of this site. You can check out his work on
the new Legacy page! I'm pretty excited about these
developments, and I think you'll be too!
9/18/10 Clone Wars Season 3
Minimal issues coming back online, which is great news, so I figured I'd post a
small update. Many of you have no doubt seen the first two episodes of the third
season of Clone Wars. The animation continues to improve on this series in
tandem with the contradictions with the greater EU, as noted recently at
Celebration V (where, for example, it was said that Asajj Ventress was to be
shown as a Nightsister from Dathomir). Some of you have asked about my thoughts
on the re-working of Asajj's backstory. Plainly said, I'm not thrilled, though I
must admit there is a certain irony here. Haden Blackman (creator of The
Force Unleashed) wrote her back-story in the pages of Dark Horse's
Republic comic. Recalling his utter disregard for continuity in TFU, it is
somewhat amusing to see him get a taste of his own medicine. A bit of poetic
justice perhaps? At any rate, rather than rant and rave about the show's
contradictions -- which you guys know I've done at length -- I'm simply going to
try and figure out how it all can work to a greater or lesser degree. There is
fluidity with the Clone Wars episodes, as they're not being aired in
chronological order, and we don't have a fixed timeline as of yet. When the show
is complete, I'll go over everything to see what stays and what goes, and what
can be made to fit. There's a lot that creative writers can patch up once the
storm that is George Lucas is no longer doing damage. In the end, I do think it
will be determined that the series was worth it -- despite the problems and
headaches it caused -- but that's a forecast for a future day. For my part, I am
enjoying the show.
9/17/10 Back Online
After losing my hard-drive, I'm back online with a new computer (and new version
of FrontPage). Just testing this out to see if there's any conflicts with
Windows 7 (or rather, what specific conflicts I'm going to encounter).
8/14/10 It's Official!!! STAR WARS on Blu-Ray! And a New Scene from Return of
After years of fans talking about it, George Lucas has just announced at CV
(that's Star Wars Celebration 5) that Fall of 2011 will see a "Star Wars Saga" box set on blu-ray with deleted scenes!
As you know from the news posted on 4/19, there are going to be a LOT of new
These guys have gone into the dailies from all six films and pulled out things
that not even Lucas has seen since the day they were shot! As of yet, there is
still no word on if or how many scenes are being reinserted into the film, and
let's face it, while individual deleted scenes are cool, they're oftentimes
academic, divorced as they are from the context of the film itself.
But there is one new scene that's just been released! If
the additional "lost" scenes are half as good as this one, the Star Wars films
may get the kind of increase in quality that the extended editions of some of
the Lord of the Rings films got! Check it out:
8/10/10 Exclusives and Upcoming Season date announced
Head over to Starwarsshop.com for
Tales from the Clone Wars, Vol. 1 (click on the link to go right there),
an exclusive trade paperback of the Clone Wars webcomics from the official site.
These take place before and in-between episodes of Season 1's Clone Wars
animated series. And speaking of which, they just announced that Season 3 will
debut on September 17 at 9PM (Eastern) with a one-hour special.
Just a minor update. "Full of Surprises" is now in the Infinities section
at 22 BBY. (Thanks Luke!) I may have more updates to come.
I've written a little blog-type entry on the
Latest News page as to what the hold-up has been with me making
updates like I'd been doing. I appreciate all your terrific patience with
me during this time.
7/14/10 What's Happening?
The following is more of a blog type entry than proper "news," but it's
a bit overdue, and is something I'm writing (albeit with variations) on
most of my sites. I wanted to address my ever-lengthier spans of time between
updates, what that's all about, and when we can look forward to getting back to
As most of you know, I've been working on a book (www.blacksabbathlyrics.net)
that I hope to see published this year or next. It's been a lot of work,
more than I'd anticipated,
which continues despite my two trusty editors currently going through it.
Despite this, I had been managing to make periodic updates on this site from
time to time, even if just to rant about something or other. Why did that dry
Well, the bottom line is that I had to get another job, two in fact! While I
don't begrudge webmasters, who like PBS stations, need to ask for money from their
visitors, I'm personally loathe to do that myself. I feel that
as Star Wars fans, we spend more than enough money on books, comics, magazines
and other ancillary items. In addition, this isn't a job for me. This is my
hobby, something I get a lot of enjoyment from, and which helps keep me sane. If
Lucas or LFL want to pay me to do something for them, that's fine. But I won't
be asking for money for something I'm voluntarily
offering. I'm grateful to have found several jobs that will keep me afloat. Many
haven't been able to find work despite trying, which is why I don't judge any
webmaster who asks for contributions. But I don't need to.
All well and good, you say, but when am I going to get back to regular updates? It's a
great question and one that I don't have a definitive answer to. Roughly, I'd
like to say within a year's span. When the edits on my second draft is complete,
I'll need to do a third and final draft. I continue to search for more artists and photographers. And I need a publisher
(else I self-publish, which will mean considerably more time and effort). But
the book will be complete and I will return to my favorite brainwork, which is
this and my other sites. As it stands, I haven't even had time to
complete the latest Legacy of the Force book (which I'm thoroughly
enjoying, but it's the longest I've ever taken to read a book).
This may be a bit of a tangent, but it bears stating. Having entertaining and
thoughtful literature to read/watch/study is important to many of us, and
there's a reason for that. Because of the nature of my book, I've recently had
to immerse myself in hardcore reality (specifically I'm speaking about history
and current events, for the two are intertwined). That's not a bad thing.
In the past, I think I shied away from that too much . I've learned
a lot as a result, for instance, I've seen how even well-meaning individuals and institutions (be they
political, commercial or religious) can cause tremendous suffering and damage in
this world when people blindly place their trust in them. I've seen how there's
no end to man's capacity for brutality and evil. With knowledge comes power, particularly over one's own life, but
also as a means to lend assistance to the powerless, those without voice (which can mean our animal neighbors who share this planet,
as well as the disenfranchised, the poor, the exploited, women, children and
minorities, any who are excluded from the powerful and wealthy elite of this
world.) But as valuable as that knowledge is (and will continue to be), a
balance must be struck. Feeling the effects of what's essentially post-traumatic
stress from the many things I've seen, I can state more forcefully than ever the
importance of the Arts, music, literature, illustrative works, film and others,
to provide emotional equilibrium.
The Arts, when done with honesty, care and creative skill, can bring a
bounty of pleasure and wisdom, truth and strength. It's a
worthwhile goal to keep these things intact and within harmony alongside the
realities (and, indeed, horrors) of this world...
In closing, I want to thank yet again the many of you who've taken the time to
email me with updates! You guys rock! I may not be able to get to those updates
right away, but know this: I'm saving them in a special folder so that when I do
have the time, I'll be going through each one to make sure I've gotten
everything. I'll also be adding your names to my permanent list of Thank You's
(if I haven't already) because your help is immeasurable. In one month's time, a
lot of material can be released, which makes it a challenge when trying to play
catch up. Your efforts make things a heck of a lot easier! So thanks! Well, I'm
off to see the Wizard! Till next time...
As many of you know, my site, Eddie van der Heijden's timeline, Nathan Butler's
Timeline Gold and Rob Mullin's Expanded Universe Chronology represents the
longest running, still-extant Star Wars timeline sites on the net. Thanks to
Eddie's suggestion, we've all decided to harmonize our efforts by providing
prominent links on our front pages to one another's sites so that we're all
better connected. Nathan, Rob, Eddie and myself will still maintain our sites
individually, and continue to develop our unique interpretations, presentations
and approaches to the chronology of this growing body of lore known as the Star
Wars expanded universe. But I think there's something celebratory in our
standing side-by-side and publically recognizing each other's works as valuable
contributions to the Star Wars fan community, new and old. No doubt, Star Wars
has presented each of us with a LOT of challenges in the last few years since
the start of the Clone Wars animated series, and I've no doubt there will
continue to be challenges to overcome. But I know that we'll overcome them as we
have in the past, and perhaps even more successfully into the future as we
strengthen our bonds of communication and resources. Thanks to all of you who've
supported us over the years, and if you haven't already, take a gander at
Eddie's Once Upon a Galaxy,
Nathan's Timeline Gold
Expanded Universe Chronology. (Of course, there are even more Star Wars
timeline sites out there just as enjoyable as ours, and worthy of spending time
with. Check out my links page for some
Thanks for the heads-up from Lucas Geurts, I shifted the Tales from
Jabba's Palace story, "A Boy and His Monster" to after chapter 16 of
Rebel Dawn. Maybe now, poor Bidlo Kwerve can rest in peace.
Thanks to the intel brought to me by Plaristes, who noted that Wild
Space only leaves a week from the time of TCW film to the latter novel
(and that time spent on Coruscant), I've moved Shipyards of Doom
out of that period to just before The Malevolence trilogy (which
the end of Shipyards leads into anyway.)
The new Old Republic
webcomic is up, and it looks good. This time they're doing a whole
issue instead of just two or three pages at a go. I've added it to the
After a bit of a hiatus, I finally added Crosscurrent to the 5,000
BBY mark, setting it where it properly goes, in the midst of The Fall
of the Sith Empire series. I added a piece of news on the
soon-to-be-announced Star Wars blu-ray boxed set.
I also added all the recent and upcoming Clone Wars episodes, including
putting back the three Mandalore episodes. With an official retcon being
worked on and likely to appear in the forthcoming Imperial Commando
book, there's no real reason to keep them in Infinities. But it felt good
for awhile! ;)
Also, once again, I shifted things a bit so that no one month is so
jam-packed it stretches credulity. True, Star Wars is fantasy-based and
these characters have a storehouse of energy most of us could only dream
of, but I still think its best to keep things as close to our human
reality as possible. After all, there are still days of the week and hours
of the day, and these guys need to sleep just like everyone else (true,
Jedi can get by on meditation techniques, but you get my point). Once
Filoni and Chee settle on an official timeline, we'll arrange things
again, but for now this will do.
I also added the two latest Galactic Timeline entries for The Old
Republic, which is proving to be rather interesting. Keep your eyes
open for an upcoming trade paperback collection of the online comics, and
two companion novels to the game! Also, check out the official site for
the excellent short story, "Smuggler's Vanguard" about a young Hylo Visz
(which I've placed at 3667). Thanks to Mike Brennan for the heads up!
Obviously, there's still more updates I need to make, and Luke and a few
of you have been keeping me covered and motivated. I have a small window
of time which I'll use to at least bring things up to speed before I have
to stop and let them all slip by me again. But hey, that's life! Unless
life throws me a happy surprise, I don't expect to be writing any books
after the one I'm currently doing (and yes, that would be famous last
4/19/10 Blu-Ray on the Near Horizon
Consider this rumor, but a pretty strong one. The Star Wars six-film saga
box-set may be heading to Blu-Ray as early as October! Steve Sansweet, at C2E2
in Chicago has recently announced "We have been at work for a couple of years
I won't call it the Ultimate Set because we keep finding stuff –
but, a very full set of all six movies on Blu-ray with lots of extra material.
We're finding all kinds of scenes from dailies that have never been seen before.
Beyond all of those things that you know about... there are some real
treasures." Head over to thedigitalbits.com for more info.
On theforcecast, Steve Sansweet said there's still
work to be done, and as to the newly rediscovered scenes, some were synched to
sound, some are things fans have heard about for years, and there's no word yet
as to whether they'll be presented as deleted scenes or even part of a new cut
of the film (via branching technology). This is all amazing news! The fact that
they're going through the actual dailies to pull out "lost" scenes that Lucas
hasn't seen in decades is incredible! There's going to be a lot in this set. So
stay tuned for information, as I'm certain there's a ton of news that will be
coming out in the weeks and months to come.
Best laid plans... There's still much more updating to do, and as y'all
can see, I'm a bit behind. I expected to do a part 2 to that, but was
waylaid by losing heat in the house until a little earlier today.
Thankfully, we're all warm again! :)
Updates to come...
Well, it took a little longer than anticipated, but I've made some minor
updates, including an addition to Infinities (see N/A), and covers from
Clone Wars issues, the latest
Wars magazine, the recent
Crosscurrent and even
Blood Oath (for
posterity's sake). I've added links to the latest Lost Tribe of the
Sith shorts in 5,000 BBY.
The Colossus of Destiny is up at 6 months ABG, so placed by me (since
there's no internal indicator except "in the first years" b/c I think it's
plausible that Mace's behavior (and the way Yoda speaks to him) is a
direct result of his ordeal on Hal Karuun (in Shatterpoint).
I also added the Diplomatic Corps Entrance Exam to 17 ABY
(appropriately after the Exam author's novel, The New Rebellion.)
There's a few people to thank for keeping me up to date: Travis Smith,
Barb Natividad, Eddie Van Der Heidjen and last, but not least, Luke Van
Horn. Thanks guys!
Since I'm up and fooling around, I put the fourth Xim piece back at 671
BBY when it was performed. The other three I've left in their respective
locations as they more closely approximate historical aspects of Xim's
life. I also added
to Infinities, and the
Star Wars Intergalactic Passport to 4 ABY.
There's a lot to update, but fear not it'll get done. I've been fortunate
enough to have been given some help from a few dedicated fans (thanks
guys) and have saved their emails for when it's time. We're supposed to
get a foot of snow tomorrow, so perhaps then. I might need a short break
from my book anyway to clear my head.
2/10/10 "Fear Not for the Future, Grieve Not for the Past"
With cooler heads prevailing, there are some who think the recent disruptions of
continuity over the issue of Lucas' rewrite of Mandalorian history can and will
be fixed by LFL and the writers. We shall see. Perhaps they will. If so, then
there's no cause for storming Skywalker Ranch with torches ablaze, tempting
though that might seem. The fact is that LFL should have been apprised in
advance so that at the very least they could have done damage control and begun
preparing a continuity fix. Be that as it may, it's not my company. It goes
without saying that I would have handled matters a lot differently. After all,
there's enough things in this world to upset people without adding
art/entertainment to the list.
So, I'm going to take a wait & see attitude and try and enjoy some of the recent
SW books/comics in the meantime. I'm hearing very good things about
Crosscurrent, and of course some of what Dark Horse is doing is pretty
brilliant as well.
Episodes 12-14 of the Clone Wars animated series have been moved to
1/30/10 "When You Ignore the Past, You Jeopardize the Future"
That was the ironic tag-line for last night's continuity-destroying Clone Wars
episode. By now, most of you have heard the news and seen last night's "The Plot
to Alienate the Core Fanbase" otherwise known as "The Mandalore Plot". The
response has been overwhelmingly negative. Even non-Star Wars message
boards have been writing about the death-knell of the SW franchise. It's no
exaggeration either. Lucas has singlehandedly put a giant hole in the EU. Yes,
singlehandedly, as Dave Filoni explained in the Insider #115 of March
2010, Henry Gilroy had submitted a continuity-friendly script that Lucas
rejected because he wanted to write his own history of the Mandalorians and
ignore 35 years of continuity in the process (except for one or two things, like
the DeathWatch, that he could use out of context).
I won't get into a long diatribe here. There's no point and I've spent a lot of
my disappointment and anger on the official message boards. In choosing to
contradict the recent bestselling series of books (which itself builds on 35
years of continuity), Lucas has not only invalidated the events of those books,
but any story that touches on them. With the EU functioning as a living history,
it's interconnected like a web. The Republic and Imperial Commando
books have a major impact on other titles, including the nine-book Legacy of
the Force series, and everything those touch on, including the still ongoing
Fate of the Jedi series, not to mention many of the comics, old and new,
which are affected in small or large part by Lucas's utter disregard for the
What Lucas has basically done in this decision is send a message to the core
fans: "I don't care about your interests. I don't care about the authors who've
worked tirelessly to create a good story within continuity. I don't care about
the editors, including my own at LFL, who've spent months and years ensuring a
single functioning continuity. I only value my stories and the money you send
What motivated such a response, I don't know. Jealousy, envy, bitterness,
arrogance? I won't pretend to be in his head, but his message is clear.
To that end, I've needed to figure out how to approach the future of this site
and my involvement with the EU, which I still enjoy. Do I get rid of it all and
walk away from a megalomaniacal corporate emperor who rewards his supporters
with a smack in the face? I certainly have no intention of giving him any more
of my hard-earned cash. He's proven he no longer deserves it.
My decision for now is this: This past episode of the Clone Wars and the
following two (which form a trilogy of episodes about Mandalore) are Infinities.
Any story that follows on a Duchess Satine, or a pacifist Mandalore is
Infinities. I've been debating doing this with the abysmal The Force
Unleashed, but in this case, it's required. In order for me to continue
moving forward as a fan of the EU with this site, there is no other choice.
That means, folks, that the story you saw last night (and will see in the next
two weeks) did not happen.
But it also means that from now on, I severely curtail my expenditures. I'll buy
the books from a second-hand merchant. Not sure yet what I'll do about the
comic, but I may go that route as well and just buy second-hand trades. I like
my collection, but I don't like giving my money to an impertinent ingrate who's
forgotten that we the fans are the one who put him where he is.